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A few months ago, when I read - or re-read, who knows? - Robins in the Abbey, I told [livejournal.com profile] desperance that the "Abbey School" books were for people who thought that what the Chalet School books needed was a higher emotional intensity and more twins! I was already thinking about an LJ post, but I expected it to be a fairly straightforward piece about childhood reading and adult re-reading, with a smattering of plot summary and the odd one-liner.

Somewhere along the way it has become more complicated, with each new thought twisting what went before in on itself in an ever tightening spiral. My thoughts on the subject have become increasingly snarled up with the difficulties of talking about books you - in the various senses set out by Pierre Bayard in his book on the subject - haven't read. One of the ways he identifies of not having read a book is to have read but forgotten it. I remember very little of the "Abbey School" books that I read as a child: the school at the Abbey, the girls forever exploring the ruins and making discoveries, the emotional force of this connection with the past, which always seems to return to someone called Ambrose (and later the even more dimly remembered Jehane).

I picked up a couple of volumes one midsummer in the bookshop in Berwick: Robins in the Abbey and The New Abbey Girls. Were these among the titles I read as a child? There's no way of knowing. Although I was pretty sure I had one or two volumes of my own, somewhere, I must have read mostly library copies: all I can say is that these didn't ring any bells. If a book is part of a series, can you claim to have read the book if you've only read that book? How many of the series do you need to have read? And does it matter what order you read them in? If so, I failed at the first hurdle: I should have known that anything with 'New' in its name is likely to be very old; The New Abbey Girls is not only the earlier of the two, it's one of the earliest in the series.

Instead I started with Robins in the Abbey, one of the 'Second Generation'* stories. But I'm not altogether sorry to have plunged in a the deep end. Robins in the Abbey begins as if it were a school story, with the arrival of a 'new girl' into a tangle of feuds and resentments: Robin Brent is sailing home from New York**, and is thrown into the company of Lady Joy - and here at last was a name I recognised - although Joy feels that the house in Wales which Robin has inherited from her godfather ought by rights have come to her husband. Joy is able to set this resentment aside, and Robin meets meets Joy's twins, and Maidlin's twins and Rosamund's twins (two sets within a year)... These Abbey girls are young women, and there is no school, though there is the coronation of the year's May Queen, and a tour of the abbey and a discovery (one of the abbey's bells, long-lost).

It was a relief to peel away the years and turn to The New Abbey Girls, away from all this maternity: the book begins the day after Joan's wedding, and Joy and Jen are no longer schoolgirls. But Maidlin and Rosamund, the eponymous 'new' girls, go to Miss Macy's school - because, of course, there never was a school at the abbey, my memory had simply edited a series of books about girls growing up with a particular location at its heart, and made that location into a school. The publishers can't have been averse to this: my copy of Robins in the Abbey (Collins, 1959) has 'The Abbey School Series' impressed on the cover, around an image of the abbey.

There's no school, but there are classes. How could I have forgotten something as central to the books as the dancing? It is present in Robins in the Abbey, but eclipsed by the romantic plot, and the constant need to introduce characters by their lineage (information about who was the mother of each young woman, and who she has named her babies after, all of interest to the returning readership). In The New Abbey Girls, dancing comes into the foreground: when Joy is uncertain what do do, she goes to London to visit her friends in what is evidently the English Folk Dance (not yet 'Dance and Song') Society. 'Country dancing' as we learned it as school was one of the few elements of PE that I actually enjoyed, and the descriptions of the dances are so lively, and their names so bizarrely wonderful, how could I have blanked this so completely?

Perhaps the problem was that if you think you are reading a school story, the presence of something so big and so powerful pulls the narrative all out of shape. It requires a readjustment of expectations to get any sort of grip on what the books are about. If I'd stopped - as I might have done - after these two books, I still wouldn't have got there. But I brought The Abbey Girls in Town home from [livejournal.com profile] desperance's house clearance; and because I was reading that, I reacted to [livejournal.com profile] gillpolack's remark about reading the first book of the series by poking around the internet; and there I found information to make me pay attention to what I was reading: which was, of course, a fascinating account of the early days of the EFDS, including some portraits of real people - Madam, and the Pixie, for example (and the Writer Person, a self-portrait).

There is a strong emphasis on dancing as a conduit for doing good works. The Abbey girls are genuinely thrilled and delighted by the activity of dancing, for its own sake. As Ju Gosling says, "It is hard to imagine today how daring and liberating it must have felt for the women students to dance in gym tunics, in a world where women still wore ankle-length dresses for everything else and where other forms of dance were excessively formal." But the classes are also a form of outreach to the poor children of East London, part of the Settlement movement. In The New Abbey Girls, Joy is shocked at the misery of the East End, "the crowded streets, and the unemployed men standing at the corners, the squalid houses, the mud and dirt and bustle", and asks the Pixie what 'people like us' ought to do for the people who live there.

In The Abbey Girls in Town, published a couple of years later, she has started to act on what she has seen. Ruth, arriving from South Africa to stay with cousins she does not know, is puzzled that the hitherto staid and stodgy Mary has begun to write lively little stories about a fairy godmother who whisks poor children off for a magical day in the country. Mary has come to life through the transforming power of dance, but also through the generosity of Joy Shirley, who gives her pretty gifts and refuses to accept a donation from Mary's fee for her writing for "the cripples' play-hour at the big club in the East End" - "But Joy didn't need it; she's got tons."

She has indeed, and I find Elsie J. Oxenham's emphasis on material and social success sits oddly alongside this quasi-missionary theme. Joy has 'tons' of money and inherits her grandfather's house, but not the abbey which he leaves to Joan (who presumably has the means to maintain it). Robin inherits the Quellyn Estate, Maidlin is an heiress, Rosamund marries and becomes the Countess of Kentisbury, Ruth's family are able to give up farming when they discover diamonds on their land in South Africa. This last no longer gives the innocent pleasure it was intended to, but it's just the cherry on top of a very indigestible cake.

At this point I made two further discoveries. First, I climbed the ladder to the top shelf, and found where my Abbey books were hiding: I have copies of Stowaways in The Abbey, Maid of The Abbey and a very thick volume of The Abbey Girls in Town. At the same time I found among the Elsie J. Oxenham Society's FAQs one further way in which I had not read these books. The question What is the Difference between the Children's Press editions and other copies of the Abbey Titles? receives the answer that the most serious fault of the Children's Press editions is that they are so abridged that reading the two editions side by side is like reading two different books. Well, I'll have the chance to find out for myself, because the copy of The Abbey Girls in Town which I have already read is the Children's Press edition, and the one I haven't, isn't. (My copy of The New Abbey Girls is Children's Press, too. Ah, well).

I feel - and not entirely in a bad way - that I have more to read now than when I started; and that was before my copy of Girls of the Hamlet Club, the first of the series, arrived in the post!



*Chronology established by the Elsie J. Oxenham Society.

**I don't remember being aware how old these books were, when I first read them. Perhaps it just wasn't something I noticed; certainly I was surprised when I saw that the first of the series was published in 1914. Robins in the Abbey was published in 1947, and Robin arrives from New York by liner (as Ruth had from South Africa, in 1925 in The Abbey Girls in Town - but I'll get to that); her father is injured in a plane crash in Lisbon, and her mother mother flies out to be with him, and all this flying is a very big deal.

Date: 2012-07-17 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
Never saw these--fascinating!

Date: 2012-07-18 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com
Yes; it's the usual 'if you like this sort of thing, this is the sort of thing you will like', with a strong dose of unexpected documentary sidelight thrown in.

Date: 2012-07-17 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillpolack.livejournal.com
I always had trouble with the wealth side of it and the idea that the only alllowable professions for women were in the Arts and the heirarchy, but it was the dancing and the folklife that captured me. It bugged me that they tried to reach their ruins emotionally and didn't actually understand them at all (nice people, but not very bright, was my thought). I loved the was dancing. Always. I'm a pretty terrible dancer, but I've done folkdancing (on and off - right now, off, because of the health) since I was a kid, and the description of its affects on couch potatoes rang very true.

Date: 2012-07-18 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com
Well, reaching things emotionally is what these books are all about; and presumably the inclusion of the abbey in the first place comes from EJO's emotional reaction to Cleeve (I need to read more of the early books).

Date: 2012-07-17 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillpolack.livejournal.com
PS When you finish your Hamlet Club we should compare notes!

Oh, what a bad influence we are on each other.

And now I wonder if there is an SFnal anthology that ought to be collected, that is Chalet and Abbey.

Date: 2012-07-18 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com
1. Absolutely.

2. Hooray!

3. Tell me more...

Date: 2012-07-18 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillpolack.livejournal.com
First we need a publisher...

Date: 2012-07-17 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com
I believe the school was in the Hall for a term or so in one of the very early books. (I have read all the ones featuring the main Abbey girls, though not the vaguely tie-in stuff. A friend of mine has them all, with some photocopied because Oxenham's estate won't allow some reprints.)

These are books I read when I am really, really ill or upset. They are completely comfort reading, and nothing bad ever really happens to the main characters -- there always were too many babies for my taste.

It is interesting that the ones featuring versions of real people in the folk dance world of the 1920s (even if said real people were furious at the time because they weren't like that) have a much 'realer' feel. (I am thinking, particularly, of The Abbey Girls Go Back to School). I also prefer the ones with a bit of excitement in them: Jandy Mac Comes Back springs to mind.

The Children's Press Editions tend to be much less rich in emotional detail.
Edited Date: 2012-07-17 04:46 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-07-18 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com
Ah, you know *much* more about this than I do! I hope I haven't gone too far astray?

Date: 2012-07-18 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com
No, you haven't. They're all pretty much variations-on-a-theme. Even the really successful people who have careers are much, much happier after they have given up (or gone amateur) and married. The only two I can think of who are reasonably successful but never marry are Mary-Dorothy and Rachel, and both are plainly self-inserts.

Date: 2012-07-18 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com
As I've said in another reply, I need to know more / think more about Mary-Dorothy. Rachel I don't know at all...

Date: 2012-07-18 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com
Rachel is one of those later characters - Rachel Ellerton. She appears in Dancer from the Abbey which is primarily about her sister, Damaris, and they are central characters in Guardians of the Abbey and Rachel, as the Abbey Guardian and, like Mary-Dorothy, a children's author, acts in the same way Mary-Dorothy does - as mentor and confessor - to the younger set: Rosalind Kane, Jancy Raymond, Littlejan Fraser, and the Marchwood twins, Elizabeth and Margaret. Littlejan has always been one of my favourite characters, but she got married at eighteen.

Date: 2012-07-17 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fjm.livejournal.com
There was pretty much no other way for women to acquire substantial sums of money than inheriting it. Widowhood was useful.

Date: 2012-07-18 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com
True, but why is so keen that everyone should have substantial - and such very substantial - sums of money?

(I need also to know more about Mary Devine, who starts out as a downtrodden secretary, moves into writing and becomes a successful writer of - I think - school stories.)

Date: 2012-07-18 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com
Well, it has to be said that before Rosamund marries her Earl she spends some time running a tea shop with some cousins, and refusing help from everyone, particularly Joy.

Date: 2012-07-18 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fjm.livejournal.com
Because for most women, the terror is being forced to be dependent on a man: father, brother, or acceptance of a husband. It really is a terror most of us don't face. I've been thinking about this a lot lately, because I have no children, no close cousins, no really close relatives of any kind--and I can expect to be a widow by 65.

Date: 2012-07-18 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com
Ouch! Well, that would set anyone thinking.

I wonder whether there was a similar personal concern for EJO: on the basis of this very small sample, she really does seem to scatter large fortunes around quite widely. I don't remember anything comparable at the Chalet school.

Date: 2012-07-19 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fjm.livejournal.com
In the Chalet School, despite the lovely strong single teachers, *everyone* but the baby-dykes get married. Which, when you consider that most of these stories are written in the aftermath of two world wars, is almost more of a fantasy than is suddenly inheriting wealth (which may actually have happened disproportionately to women in the 1920s due to a shortage of male heirs, and worried elders leaving single women unlikely to marry, enough money to live on--and now I'm curious to know if anyone has ever done any research on that).

Date: 2012-07-19 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com
Different solutions to the same problem, then? There's a fair bit of marrying in the Abbey series - and, as [livejournal.com profile] lil_shepherd points out, quite young, too. I shall have to pay attention as I read on. (According to Wikipedia, EJO was one of four sisters, none of whom married, although both brothers did.)

Marrying

Date: 2016-10-15 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The thing is, that marrying was a very special thing because men were so scarce. I remember asking my grandmother (who was of that generation) why my grandfather was so much older than her, and she said "well, dear, just about all the boys of our age were killed off in the war." (meaning WW1). So they married young, if they found someone suitable, because it might have been their only chance.

Re: Marrying

Date: 2016-10-18 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com
But this argument cuts both ways. On the one hand, you might expect girls to be ptroccupied with marriage, because they couldn't take it for granted as something that would happen sooner or later - but on the other hand, you might expect more emphasis on other options, for the same reason.

Also, remember that the books span a very long period, so this argument doesn't apply to all of them. And people are conveniently widowed for reasons unrelated to the war...

Date: 2015-12-20 09:56 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm glad I found this. Like you I have a recollections of reading some , but by no means all, of the Abbey books (and also remember it as "school ")

I have a vivid memory of The Abbey Girls in Town and that it was a very odd book. I seem to recall a lot about knitted jackets which Ruth bought as presents for her cousins !

I didn't warm to Joy and Joan. I must have read them in the later 60s or early 70s and they were horribly dated even then.

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