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shewhomust ([personal profile] shewhomust) wrote2010-07-05 10:26 pm
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Georgette Heyer: These Old Shades

I read my first Georgette Heyer earlier this year. Unlike all the amazing writers I'd never heard of until I started hanging out at LJ, she's always been a familiar presence, but I'd never read her. No particular readon; or, if you will, in my teens when I might have been ploughing through the Georgette Heyers on the library shelves, I was reading my way through Jean Plaidy (I make no comparison between the two as novelists, but Jean Plaidy wrote about "my" period). Since I came here, however, I have been told how wrong I was, so when I found a copy of These Old Shades at a book sale, I bought it, read it and - yes, I quite enjoyed it.

But that's all, I'm afraid.

Perhaps it wasn't so foolish, after all, to dismiss Heyer as "not my period"; not that I wouldn't read a book set in the eighteenth century, but that the period is not, in itself, enough to charm me. These Old Shades starts with a gentleman walking home one evening through Paris, wearing shoes with high red heels, a purple cloak, a purple and gold coat, a flowered silk waistcoat, "faultless small clothes" - and more. This does not make me go "wow!", it makes me think: "Aha! Clothes porn!" I don't hate it, but you're going to have to offer me something else.

Maybe the characters? That well-dressed gentleman, Our Hero, His Grace the Duke of Avon, has a reputation for wickedness which he does nothing to maintain. We are, I assume, intended to be intrigued: what are his motives in bringing home a young urchin whom he proceeds to groom as his page? But it is soon clear that, whatever his initial purpose, beneath that fashionable exterior there is a tender heart, and he has fallen for the child. This could be misleading, but if it weren't clear from the first that Léon is really Léonie, the jacket copy spells it out. So His Grace brings his new acquisition home to a domestic setting in which Hugh Davenant is sitting up awaiting his return, reading a book of poems by the fire in the library, having first arranged for a cold supper to be set on the table. This cosy domesticity is disconcerting, and the tone of the conversation between the two friends, a long-suffering tolerance of those aspects of the other which each knows he cannot chance - well, there's something very long-married about it. But all this is illusion, and Hugh is just another of the people who persists in being Avon's friend despite his notorious wickedness. He is less Byronic rakehell than Percy Blakeney?, but it is Percy Blakeney without the Scarlet Pimpernel, Peter Wimsey in his fastidious tastes and 'unfortunate manner', but without the nerves or the intellectual curiosity.

As for Léonie, she is as bright as a button, brave, impertinent, charming, devoted. If she were ten years old, she would be as irresistible as her author thinks she is - but if she were ten years old, there would be the prospect of her growing up. At nineteen, she is an adult, and I found her very hard to take. To some extent, the plot dictates her age: there must be a difference of a generation between herself and Avon, but she must not be so young that he cannot decently fall in love with her. More than a historical novel, this struck me as a romance: if the story doesn't enlist you in willing on the uniting of the lovers, then you are missing much of its appeal.

As, it must be obvious, I was. I didn't even find much in the way of plot** to distract me into wondering not whether but how the course of true love might run smooth. I'm not asking for activity, events, hand-to-hand combat: I'm just suggesting that if - for example - just when all is about to be revealed, the heroine misguidedly runs away, then you might want to create some suspense about where she has gone and whether the hero will be able to find her. If she has run away to somewhere which has already been established as the one place she might go, and the hero shows no anxiety on her account, then the reader isn't going to be very worried either.

Finally: I am not fond of the assumption that an aristocratic baby removed from her parents at birth will grow up more refined and charming than her plebeian foster-family, while a peasant baby substituted for her with grow up, despite all his education and advantages, cloddish and dull-witted. Just saying...




*Actually, I was confused by this. My initial assumption was "well, of course she's a girl!" but Léon shows no reluctance to being taken off, bathed and clothed by the household servants, and the servants don't seem to notice anything amiss. So I revised my reading: presumably Satanas is going to wreak his wicked vengeance by dressing Léon as a girl who will break the hearts of his enemies. But no, as you were: it turns out that of course the servants noticed, they were just too well trained to let on to the reader (and presumably Léon knew this would be the case). You think s/he'd have been allowed to bath in private? Really? Oh...

**"Plot?" said [livejournal.com profile] desperance. "You're reading Georgette Heyer for the plot?"

[identity profile] kateelliott.livejournal.com 2010-07-05 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I have several Heyers I really adore. These Old Shades is one I could not finish, for many of the reasons you list. Heyer does use the "blood will out" business throughout her work, which I detest. But her strengths in the right measure (and fitted to the right taste for individuals sets of characters or plots) can offset that to a greater or lesser degree.

[identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting that you couldn't finish it, and [livejournal.com profile] athenais claims it as a favourite! But it sounds as if I should try at least one more before deciding absolutely that Heyer is Not For Me.

[identity profile] anef.livejournal.com 2010-07-07 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Please, try more! At least try Cotillion, and if you don't like that then you are welcome to give up. But everyone will have their own favourites.

[identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com 2010-07-07 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, I'll look out for Cotillion.

[identity profile] kateelliott.livejournal.com 2010-07-07 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Heyer is quite individualistic in that sense. Many of her books I did not care for, while other readers loved them, and vice versa, and that makes perfect sense to me.

I second the rec of Cotillion. I own copies of Devil's Cub and An Infamous Army, which I judiciously re-read by skipping all the boring parts (these two books are related to These Old Shades, being about Avon's son and great-granddaughter, respectively) because the love stories in both books really appeal to me although they are quite different stories. I also own Venetia, which is charming. There are others.

Heyer may not ever work for you, or you may just have the find the ones that do work.

[identity profile] anef.livejournal.com 2010-07-07 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I am still very fond of These Old Shades, but these days I do find it a tad creaky. I find I re-read Devil's Cub more often, for the inestimable Mary Challoner.

[identity profile] kateelliott.livejournal.com 2010-07-07 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I love Devil's Cub. I just skip all the bits with Fanny and Rupert. And the scene between Mary and the Duke is classic.

[identity profile] anef.livejournal.com 2010-07-08 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Except there is no possible reason for them ending up at that particular inn together. I do think her plotting is at its weakest in the denouements. For instance, in the Nonesuch which I love except for the misunderstanding about the children. Why can't she ask the vicar's wife, for heaven's sake?

[identity profile] kateelliott.livejournal.com 2010-07-08 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
No! It wuz fate! There aren't that many inns along the route. Uh uh uh - I can't hear you! *g*

The Nonesuch I agree with you about. It was a dumb plot line in an otherwise delightful interaction (adults!)

[identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com 2010-07-05 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
You have to be a teen, I think, to be oblivious to the creaky plot devices and the "blood will always tell" and other racial slurs that Heyer so comfortably and insistently depends on.

Other than that, she did get her Georgian period details brilliantly well. (But she had the letters of George Selwyn and Horry Walpole as resources.)

[identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm. I thought it might be the period detail that made it all worth while - but a period, alas, that doesn't in itself charm me.

[identity profile] athenais.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
She was the first person I read who went into detail about a period of history I was intensely curious about. I love These Old Shades. It is very nearly my favorite Heyer. But I don't disagree about the problems it has.

[identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so delighted to have your comment declaring undying love for These Old Shades alongside [livejournal.com profile] kateelliott's inability to finish it! Clearly Heyer is an author with whom our mileage varies considerably!

[identity profile] athenais.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I third Cotillion, it is Heyer par excellence and if it doesn't appeal, none of the rest is likely to do better.

[identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I found Georgette Heyer pretty much unreadable in my teens, and only a tad less unreadable now. Yet I enjoyed the odd Mills&Boon in my teens, and have read an occasional Romance since.

I think it was the inate snobbery, and that I don't care much for the Regency as a period, though I know people have a lot of respect for her research.

NB: It may say a lot about my tastes that I hugely enjoyed the Dr Syn books, despite the plot repeats and being set in the Regency, because, well, smugglers and pirates!
Edited 2010-07-06 05:25 (UTC)

[identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't recall a passion for pirates in my youth - other than Josephine Tey's The Privateer, that is. Now I think I'm suffering from pirate overload: they have to be truly exceptional to stand out from the crowd. ([livejournal.com profile] moshui, I'm looking at you...)

[identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but a Doctor of Divinity who is both smuggler and pirate is a bit exceptional, particularly when he is also Vicar of Dymchurch...

[identity profile] houseboatonstyx.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
These characters aren't 21 century people with faults -- they are people of that period, which was different than ours. The clothes aren't clothes porn, they're indications that this story is not in Kansas.

[identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
These characters aren't 21 century people with faults -- they are people of that period, which was different than ours

Certainly. And the situations which strike me as odd are early 20th century plotting, not 21st century plotting. I did admit, this is more about me than about the book!

The clothes aren't clothes porn, they're indications that this story is not in Kansas.

Well, 'clothes porn' was intended as short-hand, not as any sort of judgement. But one or two details would have been enough to establish period and setting: the exhaustive description is there to be enjoyed for its own sake. Plenty of readers clearly do enjoy it - I'm just not one of them.

[identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you ever encounter a certain fantasy writer (Tom Dietz) who described every single T-shirt his hero wore -- and said hero appeared to have the biggest collection in the US? The books would have been half the length sans T-shirts.

[identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't; but Stieg Larsson describes all of Lisbeth Salander's T-shirts (not quite in as much detail as he gives the spec. of her computers, but close...)

[identity profile] houseboatonstyx.livejournal.com 2010-07-07 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
One or two details might tip a reader off to a period and setting that she was already familiar with. But a reader visiting that period for the first time, may need those details in a more, er, detailed context.

Some readers enjoy an exhaustive description of a modern woman's ball gown. But imo the effect of a gentleman wearing "shoes with high red heels, a purple cloak, a purple and gold coat, a flowered silk waistcoat" goes way beyond that, in several directions. This is definitely not a gentleman of Kansas!